Known Issues with ptc sites - common problems you might encounter with ptc sites and similar sites

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Image caption: don't worry, this is not an active live chat pop up window, but it is is to illustrate a common annoyance you might encounter while viewing ads on ptc sites, and it it is not always possible to predict which ones have these or not.

I will be honest.  Like most industries on the web, paid to click sites are not without their flaws.  I don't want to scare you away from using ptc sites 

Common issues for users:

1. Anticheat bot fail: If you are using bots to do your rounds for you: beware, most ptc sites have anti-cheat mechanisms in place aimed at catching bots and other cheaters (aims at reducing click fraud).  If you are tempted to use bots or other means to cheat the system, you will be putting your accounts at risk on most if not all ptc sites, so I don't recommend it.  As for the rest of us, many sites (not all of them) have anti-cheat mechanisms in place you will want to be aware of.  For example, at Clicksia, both when you log in and when you view ads, you will be presented with a series of pictures and have to choose the correct one (usually the upside down picture) to be able to log in and get credit for the ads you view.  Clicking the wrong one too many times can get you suspended or locked out of the site for a while.  Some sites (such as Buxp, Infinity Bux and Get Bux Today) even have anticheat links buried in the ads, and if you click on them bad things can happen (such as your account balance going to 0 or even getting your account suspended).  Best practices with these: pay attention to detail so you don't accidently fail the anti-cheat test or click on the anti-cheat link.  Will save you lots of headache and trouble.

2. Pop ups, live chat windows, and frame breakers: these are some common annoyances you might encounter when viewing ads.  The most annoying ones are the framebreaker sites that some people post.  They will look like legitimate ads and sites, but after you click on them, they can break out of the frame and redirect you (forcing you to manually go back to the ptc site you were using).  Live chat window (by the way, did you see the lovely image I posted above, just one example of a live chat window): these are lovely too (especially on forex sites, certain clickbank sites and some income opportunity sites) as sometimes advetisers are aggressive enough that they will try to engage you while visiting their site(s), especially when you try to leave and pressure you into buying or at least subscribing to their mailing list.  Personally I usually try to ignore them when I encounter them.  If I want to buy, I will on my own schedule, not the advertiser's.  By the way, it does help to be mindful about that the advertiser is offering as well as the costs of the products/services before buying.  Friendly advice: while you are welcome to respond to what an advertiser is offering, don't spend more than you can afford (avoid yourself some unnecessary financial troubles).  

3. Viruses and malware - it always takes a few inconsiderate people to ruin things for everyone, and shady advertisers on paid to click sites are no exception.  You click on an ad, and either your antivirus scanner picks up on a virus (such as at trojan) or your computer starts acting funny.  Reputable paid to click sites always do their best to filter out undesirable sites (especially virus or malware infected ones), but some shady advertisers still manage to find their way around the filters and think it is funny to try and infect as many users as they can.  By the way, Google Chrome seems to be better at sniffing out potientially malware infected sites and usually warns you if you are about to visit a virus or malware infected site.  Having a good antivirus software is a MUST have when using ptc sites.  By the way, Windows 7 Security Essentials can be pretty useful for detecting potiential threats to your computer.  Alternatively, you could probably find a good antivirus / malware software on Amazon.com (by the way, see the advertisements section in the side bar for some antivirus software you can buy if you don't have one).  I wish there was a way to screen out links before clicking on them, but it is not always possible to do (though it an add seems phishy in anyways or a particular link gives off a bad vibe, don't feel like you have to click on it).  By the way, when doing paid tasks or ptsu offers be cautious of offers that pay you to download stuff (like toolbars, games, etc) as I have found that sometimes they can contain malware, adware, or even viruses (you probably won't know until your antivirus software pick up on it or all of the sudden your computer or browsers act funny, such as browser crashing often, computer running slower than normal, etc).  Also, be cautious when using shared computers (I have this problem using my dad's computer mysellf) as you can inadvertantly run into virus infected websites (especially if you use Internet Explorer) and you might know you have a virus until later when either you or someone else runs a virus scan.  

4. Bad quality referrals (referrals who do nothing).  ***Sigh***, I encounter this issue all the time myself (and I am sure that many other veteran paid to click users can attest to this too).  You are actively promoting the paid to click sites you are a part of (for example: Neobux) and before long you get direct referrals (well done) and now you think you now have a team and your earnings potiential has just gone up.  However, your referral(s) get lazy and do nothing (or they are active at first, but after a while they turn inactive).  They never view ads, upgrade their accounts, complete offers, or anything (zip nada zilch).  In the ideal world, we would all have 100's of active referrals as paid to click members and earn a fortune with paid to click sites (or similar systems for that matter).  Of course, we do not live in an ideal world and realistically, some referrals will likely be more active than others.  Why people stop clicking indefinitely or never click at all, I have no idea (maybe they don't know how paid to click sites work or maybe they are lazy and think you will do all of the work for them, like how it is in matrix systems where you join under a heavy hitter and get tons of spill over referrals in your downline).  By the way, this is a risk to take if you use paid to sign up offers to get referrals (they might join and click for the sign up money but then stop clicking after a while) as well as renting referrals (rental referrals are generally "as-is" and is presumed to be active) as you might not always get the best quality referrals.  Perhaps educating your prospects or even offering incentives for people to do their rounds can help (such as offering refback offers, where you give back a percentage of what you make from their clicks).  Best bet is to get lots of referrals (say 100's or 1000's), this way you will likely get more active referrals, also some sites allow you to delete or recycle referrals don't live up to your expectations (such as going for more than 2 weeks without clicking for no apparent reason).  Also, bear in mind that if they don't even view ads, they won't be making any money either, and it is not like you can do their rounds for them, even if you wanted to (especially considering that you can only have 1 account per site on average).  

5. Sites that turn scam or seem to go out of business.  I have ran into this problem on a few occasions myself (most recently: bux levels which was legit for a while, but then moved to a different host and then later shut down indefinitely for some reason).  While many paid to click sites are legitimate and owners are usually honest, there will likely be a few bad apples in the bunch.  Some sites never pay, some sites might not seem to do a good enough job at filtering out advertiser sites that contain viruses or malware in them.  Some sites may seem too good to be true (for example, offering say $10 for each ad you click on), and some sites may even seem legitamite at first, but then start having issues down the road or even seem to go out of business (go offline indefinitely).  If you have multiple ptc sites, you will likely encounter this issue sooner or later (especially if you respond to ptsu offers or trade referral links with fellow paid to click members as they probably don't know that a site is a potiential scam ptc or not either).  On the postive note, here are some things to watch out for:

- Too good to be true claims (for example: if a site offers $1 or more per click, that can be a potiential red flag).  After all, why would any advertiser want to spend $1 or more for just one hit on paid to click sites as opposed to say 1000 hits for the same price.  If I wanted to spend at least $1 or more per click, I would probably turn to sites like Facebook or Adwords since the traffic would be better quality at that rate.  By the way, often times at these kinds of sites, the minimum payout threshold is pretty high (such as $1000 dollars at richptc).  It will take a really long time to hit that number and they may or may not pay out that ammount either once you hit that number.

- No forum (or sites with forums but people are constantly complaning and there seems to be some censorship going on).

- Issues with paypal or payza.  This can be a real sign that a site is having problems and could soon go out of business.  Almost any legit ptc site (like Neobux and Clixsense) never seem to have problems with paypal or payza.

- People writing bad reviews about this site (or complain about them on forums and other social media).  Most ptc sites are going to get mixed reviews (where some people love a particluar site, while others hate it), but if a site gets significantly more bad reviews than good reviews, then you could probably take that as a warning.  By the way, when in doubt, three sources I recommend you check out when checking out a particular site (in addition to my site) includes: Earn Money Space / Talk Ptc (check out the boards for scam sites and complaints as fellow paid to click users are generally good about warning others about potiential issues with particular websites) as well as ptcinvestigations.  By the way, I too will try to do my best to sniff out potiential scam ptc sites and warn you whenever I come across them.  By the way, on the reviews I write, if you don't agree with the reviews I write or have a different take (maybe you know something about a particular site that I don't know about), please do feel free to leave a comment or let me know your thoughts about that site, this way this site is not just one sided about particluar sites.  Also, I will probably not get to every last ptc site on the net (I do ptc sites on a part time basis you know), so if there are sites that are not listed here that you want people to know about, feel free to let me know and I will share it on this site (click on the "Submit a review" link to submit your own review or complaints).

- Be cautious when joining newer paid to click sites.  For example, Probux (which I wrote about yesterday) has only been around for a few months (been online since 2013, this year).  This is not to say that every new paid to click site is a potiential scam site, but with new sites popping up all the time, I will just say that some sites are not meant to stay online indefinitely.  Usually only time will tell how a particular site plays out, but you can never be too careful with newer sites.

- Non-english sites.  Habla espanol (do you speak spanish)?  No?  I joined bux.es a earlier in my paid to click career and the whole site was written in spanish.  Unless if you are fluent in other languages, please stick to english sites.  Bux es went out of business after a while.   

(this list will be added to over time).

Common issues for advertisers:

- Poor conversion rate: I can relate to this.  You post an ad you think will yield good results, but then you get little or no results.  Cheap traffic is not always the best quality traffic and you would think that for example, if you promoted a MLM like Stiforp on your favorte paid to click site, for 1000 hits you should get at least 1 or 2 sign ups and earn an easy $25-$50 from those sales. Unfortunately this is not always the case.  You might get lots of sign ups or response to your offer or very little if any.  My advice to you is to experiment and consider changing tactics if needed.  Bear in mind that most people will likely view your ads for the money and might not truly be interested in buying right away (especially if what you are offering carries a high price tag, say $50 or more).  One good way around this would be to set up a custom lead capture page (you can even bribe them with something that might be of interest like a free ebook, video or brochure) and an autoresponder system that you can use to market to your leads later.  Three systems I recommend you check out for generating more leads for your business are: Stiforp, Traffic Wave and My lead Company (links will be added later).  

Stiforp: Stiforp costs $40 to join and then a mere $9.99 per month afterwards, they offer you plenty of tools and resources to set up a catchy lead capture page that you can use to generate more leads for your business, set up autoresponders to market to your leads (both by email and phone I might add), along with other resources you can use for marketing to your prospects (such as webinar and web conferencing services).  BTW, Stiforp even pays you to promote their services to (in case if you don't have anythng to promote) under a 2x14 forced matrix plan, paying up to $25 per sign up, plus $.25/month residual commissions (with up to $8,000/month potiential).  BTW, when I get a chance, I will try an post a video that demonstrates how you can use Stiforp for marketing your business.

Traffic Wave -

Here is another popular resource for advertising on paid to click sites and similar services (like Traffic Exchanges).  One perk about Traffic Wave is that they give you a 30 day FREE trial (a mere $17.95 per month afterwards). where you can use their services free of charge (up to 60 days if you opt for the matrix busters program).  Traffic Wave can easily be your best friend for advertising on paid to click sites.  Here are several features and benefits that traffic wave offers:

- Lead Capture pages you can set up (though not as personalized as the ones at Stiforp). 

- Embeddable optin forms (can be useful if you have your own site or lead capture page to advertise).  By the way some marketing systems use traffic wave as their primary autoresponder services (such as My Team Builder Pro and Traffic Exchange Profits).  

- Almost unlimited email campaigns you can set up

- Co-registration program (enables you to buy and import leads without having to worry about spam complaints).

- Newsletters you can send out

- Flat rate on leads (some services charge more as your client base grows, as is the case with Aweber for example).

- Great for network marketing and affiliate marketing purposes.  Note: not all autoresponder services allow you to use their services for network marketing purposes by the way (for example, Constant Contact does not allow network marketing as I found out the hard way long before I joined traffic wave).

- Like Stiforp, Traffic Wave also comes with a downline system too, under a 3x10 forced matrix system, paying up to $16.95 per paid sign up (assuming they upgrade to paid status after the fre/e trial ends), 6/month commissions on 1st level downline members (refer 3 paid members and you are pretty much getting Traffic Wave for free), and up to $1/month commissions on subsequent levels and up to $50,000+/month potiential (assumes you max out your matrix).  The only downside to this plan is that some free trial members are likely to quit before the free trial ends, so you will probably want to give them reasons to stay.  By the way, if you are having trouble getting sign ups, I recommend trying the Advertising Co-op system they have,  I've tried it twice myself and managed to get several sign ups that way myself (though some are likely to drop traffic wave before the free trial ends, so you will probably want to follow up with them and give them reasons to stay for best results).

Anyways, feel free to give Traffic Wave a try at http://www.trafficwave.net/members/ryansjones2

My Lead Company  (will be added later)

2. PTSU offers- poor quality sign ups.  An example of this is that you advertise another ptc site you have (for example, you use ptsu offers at Clicksia to get sign ups for Incentria), and people join under you as if they are genuinely interested in your site.  However after joining, either they do their rounds and seem active at first, but later turn active indefinitely.  Or they join and never do their rounds.  If you advertise a downline system like Global Domains, they might "join" as a prosepect, but never join your downline.  It is definitely an annoying issue to have but it is worth pointing out.  My advice with this is to set up reasonable terms and enforce them strictly.  For example, when advertising other ptc sites I always require my sign ups to do at least 1 round of clicks after joining.  Also, if you are using cpa offers like ones at Commission Junction, make sure your sign ups credit before giving credit (by the way for affiliate networks like Commission Junction and Linkshare) I know that the tracking links they give you may or may not always track properly (there is a way to ensure it tracks properly by deleting your cookie cache and temporarily setting the browser to "accept all cookies", but most people will probably not think to do that, so you might want to mention it in your offer to ensure you get credit for the sign up or sale).  By the way, if someone is falsely stating they responded to your offer but you can't verify it, feel free to reject the sign up (for example, they never appear in your downline).  They lose out on the extra cash, but ensures that the responses to your offer are genuine and keeps the cheaters out.  


(more issues will be added later).